Miami Heat officially re-sign Carlos Arroyo
The Miami Heat have released this official press release:
The Miami HEAT announced today that they have re-signed guard Carlos Arroyo. Per club policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.
“By re-signing Carlos, we feel we have accomplished another big step in adding to this team,” said HEAT President Pat Riley. “Carlos showed last season that he was one of the most competitive and efficient point guards in the NBA, and we are happy to have him back.”
Arroyo has appeared in 505 career games (148 starts) over eight seasons. During his career, with six NBA teams, he has averaged 6.9 points, 3.2 assists, 1.7 rebounds, and 18.7 minutes, while shooting 43.8 percent from the field and 80.5 percent from the foul line. He has scored in double-figures on 160 occasions, and has registered 60 multi-steal games.
During the 2009-10 season, Arroyo appeared in 72 games (35 starts) for the HEAT, averaging 6.1 points, 3.1 assists, 1.8 rebounds and 22.0 minutes, while shooting 47.5 percent from the field and 84.4 percent from the foul line. He set the HEAT single-season franchise record for assist-to-turnover ratio (4.17), which ranked second in the NBA last season, and registered a career-high in field goal percentage.
Arroyo originally signed with the HEAT as a free agent on October 12, 2009.
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¡Te lo dije, que tu no sabes nada de baloncesto Surya Fernández!
Tu afirmabas categóricamente que Arroyo no tenía ninguna posibilidad de retornar con los Heat y yo te dije que Riley sabe más de baloncesto que tú: “Carlos showed last season that he was one of the most competitive and efficient point guards in the NBA…” Riley said. Chúpate esa en lo que te mondo la otra! jajajajajajaja!
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DboyAus Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Couldn’t agree more mate!
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Surya Fernandez Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Judging by your undying love for Arroyo I would re-sign him too strictly because of marketing purposes. I’m still waiting for you to critique him but I know you can’t bring yourself to doing it. You know so much about basketball because you like a player based on where he was born, right? Very “objective”.
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Chaz Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 10:50 am
Maybe thats true…however how many PGs in the NBA or elsewhere can say they beat the dream team?
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Gauchito Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Surya said: “You know so much about basketball because you like a player based on where he was born, right? Very “objective”.”
Surya Fernández, didn’t you say that you knew something of international basketball because your family was from Argentina? Pathetic! Tell me where did you go to college, please!
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Surya Fernandez Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
You always deflect my questions or change the subject. I’m done answering your questions, you never answer mine.
Gauchito Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
One last question: Aren’t you suppose to be the blogger here…hello!, the one who is suppose to answer the fans’ questions? Go check your shrink, cause you are projecting body!
Arriba, Puerto Rico. I’m sure Carlos will have better numbers this next season, specially in assists. He started 35 games and Heat had 24-11 record (.686) He had 6.1 pts per game shooting only, 6 times per game. My forecast for this next season 9.3 pts.
6.5 assist/game. Sorry Surya !!!!!!!!!
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Surya Fernandez Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:55 pm
For the last time, I don’t have a vendetta against Arroyo. I’ve only said two things against Arroyo: 1) He had a bad playoff series against Boston, 2) There were better options out there at point guard in free agency. Obviously the Heat have made an effort of bringing back players from last year like Jones, Magloire and now Arroyo for team chemistry and continuity. That’s fine. Not that big of a deal. Arroyo fans need to stop being so sensitive and accept the reality that he isn’t the greatest point guard to ever walk this earth. He’s a decent backup at this point of his career, nothing more and nothing less.
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I’m happy with Chalmers or Arroyo starting. I think they both bring strengths and weaknesses to the table. Here’s a tip to help…pass the ball to LeBroshAde, or whatever.
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Surya, I have no problem with your view of Carlos Arroyo. His defense is no where near lock down and against quick guards like rondo and Westbrook he might be a liability. What I have a problem with is that you seem to think there are other options out there that would first of all take the veteran minimum salary, fit in the “Miami Heat culture”, and defend opposing point guards better than Arroyo could. Jason Williams and Eddie House are definitely better shooters when compared to Arroyo, but they do not take care of the ball and their shot selection can be suspect at times and if you think their defense is that much better than Arroyo’s then we are not watching the same games. In the end Pat Riley made the decision that Arroyo’s upside outweighed whatever flaws he may have, and I am happy to see him back, and I don’t think Arroyo was signed for marketing purposes either I mean come on LeBron James alone took care of that without even mentioning Wade and Bosh.
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shaun Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:18 pm
I completely agree with Alex, on his perspective on Arroyo. He’s not the fastest, quickest or lock down defender that I would want him to be, but he takes care of the ball and more often than not make the right decisions. he is a cerebral type of player and can be very useful for Miami. Good pick up. Go Heat.
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Alright, monmon/marcus/mike/dips**t, go for it.
“Arroyo LMAO old blah blah something HAHA three biggest ballhogs in the NBA blah Kobe greatest something something why don’t you sign more old guys blah LOL I’m an a**hole something blah incorrect statistic blah blah unsubstantiated opinions something blah.”
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James Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:07 pm
There ya go buddy, saved you a night of hard, hard work. Now you can devote all your attention to working the phones at the morgue.
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shaun Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Lmao @
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shaun Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Lmao @ James damn you did a nice job of putting the hater in his place
Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:24 pm
@James
great job! i was wondering why he rested, maybe his mind got drained the last time. that’s good you gave him a great favor. that gray matter of his could have been in swamps right now.
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James, Heat signed another water boy for next season! You have a handful of them now. If he couldn’t handle it with only DWade as the star, how do you think he’ll get the ball with the 3 hogs? Water boy for sure!
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James Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
/Needs more “LMAO”s.
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James Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Also lacking in Kobe Bryant and Chicago Bulls references.
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shawn Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Lol monmon I bet u never run out of dumb things to say and the lakers bench was so great last year right lol you never surpise me on how much you don’t know anything about basketball
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monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Heat should be renamed the Miami Cold — with all the water boys hired only to feed one ball to 3 hogs. All hail the Miami Cold!!! hahaha
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
i agree with you monmon. it should be named miami cold after the next season because all the heat will be in their bodies after winning the finals. so they need to chill. meanwhile after that, we could rename the lakers what else – their usual name – the fakers. for getting a lot of flops from fisher. and maybe this time, just so that you can win the refs again, kobe would need to start learning how to flop. LMAO!!!
monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Hey Lame 3, you still in the “making excuses mode”? Dang, man, Lakers celebrated already and you still freakin? We’re the champs and there’r no excuses for back to back titles. You can whine again right after we 3-peat next year.
Omg good one moron miami gold why didn’t I come up with that one. Damn u funny
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monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Wow, clueless shawn is now writing complete sentences and fewer paragraphs. I’m glad you took my advice and read the “English For Dummies” book. But you gotta read before you reply first, I said “cold” not gold, Einstein!
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:31 pm
it’s your infamous kobe who will be going COLD in the finals. remember he went COLD against the old big3? how much more with the young big3? HE MIGHT EVEN FREEZE!
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monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Kobe’s mvp and a back to back champ. Miami won 1 title in 22 yrs. Celts whipped their asses last year without breakin a sweat. Not even 3 hogs and a group of waterboys will change that this year. I seriously doubt Miami can beat the Celts this year with JOneal and Nate being resigned along with Pierce and Allen. And with KG healty and Rondo running rings around your water boy-guards rotation, Celts will sweeps the 3 hogs. It’ll then be a rematch of last year and lakers will 3-peat. That’s a no-brainer, dreamers.
shawn Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Seriously moron ur coming to a heat site and trolling and now u say lakers boston in the finals again and they why are u here trolling u fucken idiot ur hoping and praying ur flakers don’t play the heat in the finals so do me a favor get a fucken clue about basketball stop copying other peoples blogs till then stop hating ur a hater. Go troll some were else cluesss racist wow do I feel sorry for u ur probally 400lbs living in ur moms basenment
monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Your unintelligle again, clueless shawn. Drink some of your psychiatric pills now, it’ll make you calm down…
Damn, where did all the dawgs go?
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There you go again since you get say nothing about basketball you start with the personal attacks wow seriosuly you are the lamest hater I have ever came across
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Can’t*
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@Shawn/James
i won’t refute the arguments of the troller here. that kobe is mvp blah blah. but i love the book he is reading. i think it’s not “English for Dummies” but “English to become better Dummies”. LMAO!
“KG healty” and “Celts will sweeps”.
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monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:54 pm
It’s “sweep,” lame 3, mah bad. I know you can’t argue with winning. But I admire your delusions that Miami will win several titles. The only thing is that they’ll just be delusions…coz your Miami Cold will never get to the promised land; not even in the East’s promised land. So yall better win during the regular season coz that’s the only time Miami will meet LA.
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monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
And it’s healthy. You should get a cue from clueless shawn and read his book coz sentences start with capital letters. Maybe you should start learning from Dan Gilbert too. wink
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shawn Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
I laughed so hard when I read that and u bring up a good point so james and big3 let’s just not respond to him anymore why even bother. I gotta question for u and james what was ur reaction when leborn said miami heat. First thing I said to both of my brothers who are die hard laker fans is “did u guys hear that its the sound of ur 3peat going bye bye
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monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:01 pm
That’s a good idea, clueless baby. Ya got no arguments anyway.
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shawn Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 1:30 am
coming from you THATS FUNNY
your a joke and hater and troll only say the same thing
get a life HATER
shawn Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Speaks about talking english what’s up with his name monmon?
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monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:08 pm
You wouldn’t understand it if I explained it to you. So don’t ask, clueless baby.
Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:07 pm
@shawn
good idea. honestly, i’ve said in this site before that i’m a former celtics fan. i saw how pierce was limited by artest. saw how allen was inconsistent. kg is not 100%. and now that perkins got injured, i never see it coming for celtics anymore next year. i badly don’t want lakers to get their 3peat because kobe is so proud and the greatest ballhog of all. he didn’t get championships without any help. and i love celtics because i see teamwork in them.
that’s why when lebron announced he is joining the heat, i said, there’s hope! there’s a new younger team who can show what teamwork and show the world that basketball is team effort! i rejoiced while my close friends who are laker fans really got afraid. that’s the truth.
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monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:11 pm
So you’re deserting your favorite team and joining the Miami bandwagon? Big mistake. Celts will win the East and destroy Miami. They have veterans who are real winners. The 3 hogs are a bunch of losers teaming up to lose again. But LA will thump Celts again this year.
shawn Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Big3 welcome glad ur a heat fan dude I’m from LA trust me every laker fan I know are scared even on the sports radio shows out here when they say miami heat there’s a certain fear in their voices and I’m a big red sox fan btw and as far as the toll goes let’s just ingore him he doesn’t make sense doesn’t know anything about basketball his opinions are flawed at best and the same thing over and over again he attaks the players but can’t some up with any basketball logic in how the lakers have any chance of beating the heat and I know what he is gonna say next kobe mvp well the last mvp whom won it twice is king james and he plays for the heat and james I can tell how ur friends reacted they are true laker fans in which moron only watches thme during the playoffs
I have no arguments ur the one who copys other people wow how stupid are u really you only talk shit please go away
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monmon Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:26 pm
I talk shit? Man, I seriously doubt if James or Lame 3 can even understand you. They’re just being polite with you. Anyway, since you said “please” I’ll go away…for now clueless…
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shawn Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Ya u talk shit that’s all u can do when u don’t know anything basketball please shut the fuck up
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@shawn
thank you for the welcome. i could feel how afraid the laker fans are. we already have great signs that we are in competition:
POSITIVE SIGNS:
- a troller who speaks nonsense.
- stan van gundy and doc rivers acknowledged that miami heat is a strong contender. stan van gundy even said that the heat is an automatic contender.
- AND A LOT MORE TO STATE HERE.
that’s why the trash that heat-haters say about the heat is just a defense mechanism – to remove themselves from being afraid. BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY SAID IS HISTORY. nobody can predict the future. they cannot accept the challenge that miami heat will bring because it’s very strong.
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shawn Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Very good points also big3 with the lakers ron arest can’t gurad lbj and with kobe stickinh wade how healthy are kobes knees going to be remember he had his knee drained and how much will he have left in the 4th quater whens he’s been guarding wade for 3 quaters and plus the heat can switch off lebron and wade off kobe which will drive him crazy remeber lbj and wade were 1st team all nba for D two years running
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
yeah, artest can’t guard and limit lbj the way he did with pierce. kobe had a hard shooting night everytime he’s guarded by tony allen, what more when wade will guard him. this would really be what we can call – amazing.
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shawn Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 12:08 am
Ya true. And wade is the best in the nba at creating his own shot
Talking about lakers and all that just brings me to Kobe’s mad game winner….now just imagine having Bosh and LeBron that game….I don’t think it would come down to winning shots at all
Good to see Arroyo back, and don’t worry about the defense, i think he is willing to get some D going this year + if anyone blows by him, there is always big 3 to block that shot or layup or dunk!
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a lakers fan calls the bron bosh and wade ballhogs. think bron and wade without any allstars on their team averaged more assists per game last year then the entire starting five of the lakers. add bosh’s assist numbers and the three averaged more assists last year then the starting five of the celtics. if the big three are ball hogs and they pass more then your entire team what does that make your team? as far as beating the celtics goes the celts just don’t match up. rondo vs. wade adv. wade miller vs. allen adv. miller, bron vs. pierce your fing kidding right bosh vs. kg adv. bosh, j o’neal vs z. there is a reason riley didn’t bring back o’neal HE SUCKS. looking at actual inarguable stats no team can beat the heat in a series. yes i realize having miller start and wade at point seems strange but there is no team that matches up favorably in more than one position against a lineup of wade, miller, james, bosh, z.
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shawn Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 4:08 am
made very good points but ill be lebron at point
like pippen was
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oman Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 7:20 am
only reason to have wade at point is on D. point guards tend to be shorter and with lebrons length he could guard the two or the three (whichever player is better) easier than wade. on offense i would say point is handled by which ever one it is easiest to get the ball to on transition. though with wades slash and pass style and james being a better jumpshooter giving wade the ball first i think might result in more production with the D breaking down before james touches the ball.
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monmon Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 10:19 am
OMG clueless shawn, are you talking about basketball or another sport? LBJ at point? Pippen was at point before? Are you talking about basketball, Einstein? I’m sure you entertained having slowZ at point too. Are you in kindergarten, dumbo?
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UNCB278 Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
DUDE are you serious i will speak on the point of LBJ….You must not have seen any of his games last year if you say he cant play the point….8.2 APG 7.2RPG 29.8PPG with his frame and quickness that would be a matchup nightmare for anyone to guard….His versatility is unlike any NBA player he could play any position on the floor if he wanted to at 6-8 270lbs…. Give me a good reason as to why Lebron shouldnt play point…..Besides that would create matchup difficulties for your boy Kobe seeeing that if Ronda had any type of a jumpshot he would have single handedly torched the lakers….(ALTHOUGH HE WAS COOKIN UR LA LAKERS BY HIMSELF) ie I can’t stand the Celtics…Not one person on the Lakers could hold Rondo in check……Please dont give me that BS that Kobe was guarding him….Kobe sagged of of him the whole game cuz Rondo has the worst jump shot as a pg in the league took you and the Zen Master (3-4games) to figure that out…So if your gonna sit here and tell me that Kobe is gonna guard LeBron with his bummed knee, finger, back, or whatever he comes up as an excuse for 38min in a game a 7-game series ur sadly mistaken…..Don’t even mention your boy Artest because he had a tough time keepin up with Paul Pierces slow behind….
With the new acquisition of Matt Barnes that throws another option your way but remember there is Wade and LBJ…….Just admitt it is not going to be a cake walk and that you guys are very lucky that Perkins’ went down with an injury because had it not been for that injury you guys would have lost……
shawn Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
wow u really dont know nothing how sad
AND YES PIPPEN WAS A point foward
monmon Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
@ UNCB. So are you saying that you are going to make LBJ a point guard or forward? Oman was talking about Wade and Miller as “point guards.” You probably mean LBJ would be a good point “forward” judging by what you’re saying. Did you see what happened to him in Cleveland when he would play point? Did he win anything? Naah, he did nothing for the team except made himself MVP without showing anything for it but his stats. True, he had numerous assists but it’s coz he hogged the ball 90% of the time!
Dude, quit making excuses for the Celts loss. Did you hear the lakers make excuses when Bynum went down and played only 30% of his skills? If we base it on your excuses, what do you think would happen if Bynum was healthy? Lakers would have swept the Celts, dude. And LBJ and Wade can’t guard shit. Celts toyed with both Cleveland and Miami last year. With JO now with them it’s gonna be a cakewalk against Miami. Seriously the East finals is gonna be contested between Boston and Orlando this year as long as my man Vince plays the way he should.
thanks for proving my point that you really dont know nothing
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He can’t help himself…..its pretty sad its like he has been living under a rock or in a cave all of his life…unbelievable
I just think he is DENIAL and is not man enough to just admitt we have an elite team….that has an legitimate shot at a title….but for osme reason that is to hard for him say…
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shawn Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
it is hes such a hater
and the fact that he didnt know Scottie Pippen played point forward is really really really really really SAD
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monmon Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
OMG, now you say you were referring to a point forward? If you look at what Oman said before your sad comment, clueless shawn, he was referring to Wade and Miller and clearly meant “point guard” not forward. And you referred to LBJ and Pippen as point guards when you responded to his comment. Now that another so-called “expert” UNCB said that pippen was point forward, you now imply that you meant power forward when Oman was referring to point guards. Before UNCB’s comment, it is obvious you didn’t know what you were talking about. So quit riding on other people’s comments when you clear don’t know nothin….
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 10:31 pm
LMAO!!
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should be: when you clearly don’t know nothing
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monmon Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
And point forward is not an official position in basketball. The term was coined by the announcers during the great LA-Boston rivalry in the 80s, referring to Bird who was a great assist man when he had the ball. In the 90s it was named for Pippen. But both Bird and Pippen were officially known as “shooting forwards.” Go on, read history and basketball before you make comments you clearly know little or nothing about. Don’t make the announcers comments official coz they’re just fans like all of us.
You get it now, clueless shawn? You go a little lesson today, dumbo. You should be grateful to me…
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The latest news is that CP3 might go to Orlando. This means goodbye to all the chances of Miami. First, Wade and LBJ can’t guard anybody, they’re only good at scoring when the defense is weak. Second, Bosh is the softest power forward in the NBA. Third, the Miami Cold only has 8 players to date and is recruiting in the WNBA to get it’s other 5 players. Fourth, it is doubtful that Wade and Bosh can even play healthy during the playoffs with the former’s brittle feet and the latter’s cracked face.
The lines are drawn — Celts vs Magic in East finals! Miami would be lucky to get past the Bucks or Hawks in the first round. But yall just gotta believe, right? hahaha
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
LMAO! eastern teams are getting better while western teams only have lakers as a strong contender.
that’s why you continue to root for lakers because you’re a looser yourself being at the morgue. the only way you felt winning was when your team won – WHICH YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 30 YEARS. LMAO!
can’t blame you then if that’s the only kind of winning you have in your life.
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monmon Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
And i can’t blame you for being bitter after feeling a loser all your life
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@monmon
you’re showing again that you don’t know basketball.
as a former celtic fan, how can your fakers complain in 2008? how can they make the injury of bynum as an excuse when you rest all your winnings on kobe’s shoulders? and it was 2008 when you have a huge advantage in game 4 (without bynum) but you lost. that’s why you can’t blame that to your injured bynum! your kobe had it all but he let it slipped away in game 4 on your court.
now going to 2010, celtics lost because they don’t have a legitimate center in game 7. do you want me to remind you of the stats again? you only won in the rebounding department, celtics got the better percentage in all the other aspects. that’s why the loss was attributed to the injury of perkins.
and you won by a marginal 4points.
you’re pathetic. just go believing that you can have your 3peat while working those phones at the morgue.
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monmon Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 9:47 pm
hahaha, Lame 3, still bitter about your “in your face” loss? Oh, sure, Perk was the superstar and when he was gone so went the Celts, right? What a pathetic and bitter git. So even when you had 4 all-stars (3 hall of famers), mike finley, nate robinson, Sheed and all those good support group Perk’s loss was the clincher?
You don’t know anything about basketball then, Lame 3. And we never blamed Bynum’s for the loss in 08. We took it like men and just got even. The Lakers weren’t even expected to be in the Finals then as only Pau was added to the team. But Kobe was MVP that year and he led the team to the Finals despite weak support. In that series Odom and Vujacic were nowhere to be found and the others couldn’t support Kobe. Hell man, this year it was just Kobe against 4 all-stars! And guess who won, bitter man? You had Rondo (all-star), KG (HOF), Allen (HOF), Pierce (HOF bum), Sheed (former All Star and champ), Nate (former All-Star) and Finley (former All-Star) and you still couldn’t beat Kobe? And it’s coz the bum Perkins got injured?
No wonder you’re jumping to the Miami bandwagon, bitter guy. You don’t know how to win! But you’re wrong switching sides, the Celts still trump Miami this year, which shall make you doubly bitter! Poor fella…
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 9:50 pm
you’re the poor lonely person at the morgue who will just be working the phones while i sitback and enjoy watching the miami thrice.
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monmon Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
hahaha, i don’t know what you’re talking about working in the morgue; you’re probably an embalmer with those references.
Of course you’re free to watch the 3 ball-hogs win in your dreams! LOL
James Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 11:15 pm
He’s referring to the lengthy response you wrote to me a while back, talking about how you understand the meaning of life or some such nonsense, because you work at the county morgue in Chicago (making it the Cook County morgue). You also claimed to be “an investigator,” which I quickly dismissed based your grammar tendencies and overall lack of ability to communicate via the written word. My conclusion, then, was that you answer the phones at the Cook County morgue, since it seems likely that no one as unintelligent as you would be given much more responsibility than that.
Also, I’m not sure how an investigator (whatever that title means) who works for the morgue in the 2nd most populous county in the country, with a notoriously high murder rate, would have the time to stroll into work, sit down, and just start blasting away on the keyboard with copious “LMAO’s” and other dullard-speak. You yourself proclaimed that you’d been busy “investigating” many murders (don’t the, um, police do that…?), yet had somehow been waxing poetic about the great Kobe Bryant (or Chicago Bulls, depending on whether you were currently using the moniker “Marcus” or “monmon”) for hours on end.
So anyway, that’s probably why he’s referring to you working the phones at the morgue. Idiot.
monmon Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 12:38 am
What a clown you are, James. I never wrote that. But of course you’re going with other issues coz ya can’t talk basketball. You get quiet on me all of a sudden when we discuss it. Yeah, man, the old shift the issue approach is all ya can do. Can’t blame you, though, ya got nothin to argue against the champs. All you and the others can do about it is make excuses. What a dummy.
James Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 12:55 am
Haven’t engaged you about basketball in a long time, and I won’t be — nothing you write makes any sense. Not in a “you’re a hater” type of way, but in a “you call LeBron James a ballhog despite all evidence being to the contrary” type of way. You’re an idiot, and you drag down any attempt to actually discuss basketball. It would be conducive to actual discussion if you were banned from these boards.
monmon Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 1:41 am
Yup, you’re just being consistent about your excuses. The old adage is right, when you don’t you anything about a subject, just be quiet and ride the others who does.
And you want to ban me? So that you can listen to poet shawn talk about his crush on his professor? Damn! winking at you…
shawn Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
dude seriously do you have mental problems or all these years working at the morgue really getting to you?
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@monmon
and you’re really serious that Orlando will play against Boston???? duh! you’re really dumb you know? did you see how Orlando was very inconsistent in the finals? (with the lakers in 2009 and with boston in the ECF of 2010).
OMG, i’ll just laugh at you when you say that Orlando vs Boston in the ECF. you saw how vince played? LMAO!!! now i believe you never watched the games, you’re just looking at the news and never saw the games.
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monmon Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 9:55 pm
And you seriously think Miami will win it all with the 3 hogs? Where’s your basketball knowledge? They haven’t even played a game yet and you say they’re gonna be champs? Stop your delusions, Mr. Bates.
And I know that my man Vince was a no-show during that series. But with the prospect of CP3 going to the Magic my man Vince will bounce back and destroy the Hear if it can get past the Bucks or Hawks in the 1st round.
Clearly lame 3, your arguments are all illogical.
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shawn Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Hold up I said lebron please don’t try to back track with this lol dude seriously shut up really and u didn’t know about point forward wow just go away and now ur gonna call me clueless a baby and dumbo
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@big 3 did moron really say vince carter? Wow vince hasn’t proven himself as a scorer late in the 4th quater let him hope the flakers don’t play miami in the finals well I’m done with this guy everything he says doesn’t make sense and well he is plain dumb so moron go troll somewere else and don’t come back
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 11:18 pm
@shawn
never thought lakers had this kind of fan. others have more intellect and logic to discuss with. i’m also done with this person or probably a creature who is so lonely that he expresses all his hatred in miami. for me, i’ll just look forward to the next season, call me delusional, delirious, lunatic, whatever…i’ll be happy watching miami.
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And I’m done deciphering your kindergarten writing. But I won’t stop commenting at those who defend your ignorance. You should be happy now, Shakespeare.
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For some reason, this monmon fella is taking offense and shying away from mentions of him working the phones at the morgue. Please see my response to comment 20 for the genesis of “phones at the morgue.”
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Is that really all u can say wow how much of a trolling rapsit loving hater can u be are u sure ur not one of the kardashian sister’s? They defend what I say because its true and all of a sudden your on the magic bandwagon lol monon it sure sucks to be you
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James. Lol he is shying away.
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James Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Yeah, he just disappeared. He gets real quiet when that gets brought up, and that kind of makes me think he actually works there. If that’s the case, it was a TERRIBLE idea for him to come onto this site and act belligerent, then willingly hand out that info.
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 11:38 pm
LMAO! you got him there James! yes, i won’t forget you brought it up one time and it stuck to my mind that “he works the phones at the morgue”.
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monmon Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Great. One moron defending another moron! Right on cue! Cuckoos flock and defend each other. At least you 2 know how to defend — unlike the 3 ball-hogs! hahahaha.
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 12:01 am
You’re calling as morons? i thought that’s your name? lmao! can’t you realize why nobody is defending you on this site? Not even other laker fans like you?
It’s because you’re a unique type of moron who only understands yourself. Others can’t bear the sight of defending you. Oh yeah there may be some, in the person of marcus, et al., who are the same person as your lonely self.
shawn Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 12:02 am
3 ball hogs hahaha kobe mvp fuck man see this is what happens when u work at a mourge u become stiff and no personaility hahahaha
monmon Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 12:46 am
You’re not only a moron, lame 3, you’re a dummy like your good friend James. All you have really argued is that the bum Perk got injured that’s why the Celts lost. Now you think the 3 hogs can win the title, which is why you jumped the Miami Cold bandwagon. It shows that kind of person you are — a deserting git! Poor fella
shawn Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 1:22 am
think we know so
WHEN YOU MAKE SENSE AND KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT BASKETBALL THEN TALK
you didnt know scottie pippen played point forward
what makes you a shit talking hating bitch
Matt should do a chatroom on the site now that will be fun.
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Matthew Bunch Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Considering there are about 90238409328 comments on every post with eager commenter, might have to do that. I like the big comment numbers though!
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ooohhh, lame 3 and poet shawn are shying away…that’s what you get for being unable to argue with me. Are you tired of losing games and arguments, bitter men? Too bad, you’ll be losing more the coming season. LA 3-peat! 3-peat! 3-peat!
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oman Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 5:38 am
so you think lebron can’t play the 1. point forward, point guard, point center no matter what you want to call it the point brings the ball up and usually passes the ball. if you look at the top ten assist leaders of last year only two are not”point guards” and only two averaged more than 19 points a game. (wade/james) so according to stats they are easily top ten facilitators (playmakers). your argument about a 6’8″ 260 lb man not being able to play point ought to be taken up with this guy a lakers fan might be familiar with he goes by the name magic and he did it thirty years ago. magic was 6’9″ and 255. of course if you were a real laker fan not just a bandwagon jumper you would already know that. and yes if Z had over 8 assists a game(and the most on the team) i’d put him at point too. (but only on offense lol).
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monmon Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:16 am
Lebron playing the 1? And who’s gonna play the 3, Arroyo or Chalmers? And so what if they made those assist numbers, does that make them point guards? And true, the Magic Man was 6’9, but he was a true point guard ever since he played for Michigan State. He once played point on offense and center on defense when they won the title in his rookie year but that doesn’t make him a Center. He was one of those players that could rise to the occasion and play different position but only on a need-to basis.
Playing Lebron at point is as ridiculous as saying Miami will win the title next season.
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:29 am
mike miller will play the 3 and he can shoot
wow dude you are really a moron
lebron is a great ball handler and was top 10 in assist last year
why do i even bother with you?
anything we say you just dont understand
ur such a laker homer which makes you coming to a HEAT SITE and trolling pointless
so fuck off you hating lil bitch
Now ur a laker fan again what happen to the magic loll ur such. A loser
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 12:18 am
@shawn
lmao! he’s anything but a miami fan. i think it was James who posted before the different personalities this guy carries. funny, silly, and pathetic.
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shawn Reply:
July 24th, 2010 at 1:06 am
yup he is
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@MONOMON
1.) Your argument about Bosh being the softest power forward in the game….As I REMEMBER Mr. Bynum doesnt play all that strong himself….His own teammate called him out for pretty much playing like b ^&**^. You call Bosh- soft im pretty sure in team in the league would take a guy that avg..24ppg 11.4rpg 2.3apg….Soft or nOT…There is no denying the many is an animal……the passion and intensity he plays with can not be matched with chump Bynum on the bench complaining about his knee or some other injury every year……Im pretty sure if Bosh went to LA he would be starting over ur boy BYNUM without breakin a sweat
2. LBJ And Wade- Can’t guard really really…CHECK UR FACTS LeBron was ahead of Kobe in the points for 1st Team all defensive team 45-34….Not to mention WADE was 2nd team so for you to sit hear and say they can’t guard anyone THAT IS JUST IIIIGGGNNNOOORRANNTTTTT….Im pretty sure your aware of that..
3.) You mentioned JO I’m assuming you mean Jermaine Oneal…lol you highlighted him as to the reason why the Celtics are going to finals and are going to beat the Heat….Seein how his production has declined every year not to mention he has been anemic in the playoffs averaging 4.2ppg 5.6rpg 1apg…im pretty sure with those numbers he better hope he gets off the bench…not to motion he is about as slow as Christmas…Much rather have Scalibrine(I know i mispelled his name)
4. Vince….-I love Vince being a UNC fan but his time has came and went….He was and is a good player buut no where near where he used to be….The reason they brought him in was to serve as main scoring threat to relieve Rashad Lewis of that burden..That back fired the Magic IMOP was better with Turkolu…..
5. CP to Orlando–Possible, but in order for that to go through Vince/Rashad Lewis/Gortat/Jameer/ would have to leave because Magic are already over the CAP so the Magic would have to strip their roster to do so…Hornets have the upperhand in this ordeal….
6. Miami & ATL&Bucs- ReALLY you are gonna tell me with a straight face that Miami will have a tough time getting through one or both of the these teams…I live in the ATL and let me tell you the Hawks look darn good agains the scrub teams or teams that have one guy…..But as soon as the 2nd round comes about they dont show up/forget how to play the game of basketball.
6.) Im still trying to figure this out…..are you a Bulls/LA/Celts fan or are you just a hater of Miami…..
7. Talking about orlando is the team to beat….um really because im pretty sure they nutted on themselves when they played the Celtics this year in the post season so im pretty sure boston has their number……The magic are a great regular season team but are unproven in the playoffs…
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monmon Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:38 am
@ UNCB.
1. Bosh couldn’t beat anybody either one-on-one or as a team player. He never led Toronto to greater heights. He loses almost all first round playoffs for his team. He had a slight nudge on his face and cracked it. Nobody is scared of Bosh at forward. And please don’t compare him to Bynum, Andrew was injured yet played every game in the playoffs and helped LA win the crown. And he blocks shots and rebounds all the time. He’s a good team player.
2. And please, Wade can’t guard shit. Did you see how Rondo ran rings around him? Did you see him slow down Allen at all? He’s an overrated defensive player, that’s all. He’s a great offensive player, yes, but defensively any 1 or 2 guard will score against the injury prone Wade.
3. I agree that JO has slowed down during the years because of his injuries. And of course he will be a sub once Perkins gets back. But he is still effective defensively either in single coverage situations or as a help defender. He blocks and slows down everybody in the middle. I can see LBJ hesitating to attack the rim with him fronting the middle.
4. Vince was that bad last year but he’s proud and I’m sure he will bounce back. And if CP3 does transfer, Jameer will be traded but the Magic gets better. And who in Miami can stop Dwight? Softy Bosh?
5. I don’t see Miami beating either Boston or Orlando. Agreed that Boston is better than Orlando now, but if CP3 is with them it’s gonna be a different story. I can see Dwight with him blossom into a Shaq type of player. And with Vince, Rashard, and the rest of the group maturing it’s gonna be hard to beat them.
So quit trying to use stats alone to determine a player’s value. LBJ is MVP but did he do shit? The real MVP should be one who brings his team to great heights while doing well personally and eventually to a title. What g00d is it to have 2 MVPs and ZERO rings…
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:44 am
YOUR AN IDIOT
WADE CANT GUARD SHIT
YOUR AN MORON A DUMBASS A HATER A BITCH \
WOW get a life lil bitch
go answer ur phones
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monmon Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:48 am
What an angry pathetic guy. A 26 yr old who writes like a kindergarten student! Learn more, poet shawn! LOL!
shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:59 am
damn guy you funny
shit bitch
at least i know my basketball and not a hating flaker homer like you
hey the phone is ringing
I personally am a Celtics fan and you shouldn’t be crowning yourselves eastern champs just yet. Your team has a few key weaknesses, emphasis on few. When it comes to the magic who contains dwight howard? if you face the celtics who contains rondo? and if they do get shaq which is pretty likely it creates a HUGE problem on the defensive end.
The reason Lebron lost to the magic was because they couldn’t contain dwight. The reason they lost to the celtics was because they couldn’t contain rondo OR garnett. Now you do have chris bosh to defend but the record shows that chris doesn’t do to hot against the big ticket. The other top teams in the east are VERY good at defending without using double teams which means that your superstars are going to have their hands full trying to score.
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:35 am
and i see you forget what wade did to boston?
wade was the only one playing
J O’neal was crap and now you guys have him
can anyone on Boston contain Wade? no
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:40 am
want to make one thing clear i have nothing against Boston i was going for boston in the finals
they would have won if the refs didnt call the biggest ticky tack fouls late in the fourth when in the 1st quater they were letting eveything go
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monmon Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:45 am
Bitter excuses from bitter LOSERS, as usual!
shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 2:36 am
so who is going to guard wade or lbj on the magic?
matt barnes is gone wait i know vince carter or maybe lewis
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James Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:05 am
First of all, Shaq doesn’t create huge problems. He really doesn’t. There’s nothing much to argue here, just….no. If you watched a Cavs game (or 50) last year, you’d have seen him completely unable to operate against any defender in the post. All of his hook shots were horrendously flat, and he somehow lost all touch. A single, large body is all it takes to shut the big guy down these days.
I agree that Rondo could be an issue. He’s quick as hell and creative with the ball in his hands. But in that Cleveland series, when LeBron guarded Rondo straight up, Rondo couldn’t do much. Unfortunately, Mike Brown didn’t use LeBron to stick Rondo very often. This was presumably because they needed to save his legs, so he could carry the Cavs on the offensive end. With the Heat, that problem disappears. He can expend energy in shutting down the other team’s top player, and Wade and Bosh can handle more of the scoring load.
And as for containing Dwight? The Cavs lost to the Magic in 2009 because they doubled Dwight, then got murdered on three pointers raining down all night. You’d think that doubling Dwight would be necessary, but it’s not. He doesn’t have a low-post go-to move, at all, and the guy shoots 50% from the line. Guard him one on one, keep a body between him and the basket, and he’s gonna have a tough time converting 10-foot turnarounds. And if he does get in too deep before catching the ball, just foul the heck out of him and play the odds with his free throw shooting. Meanwhile, STICK to the shooters. I’ll never understand why Cleveland didn’t at least try this strategy in 2009. So in the end, my solution for Dwight is to use every one of the 24 fouls that Z, Juwan, Udonis, and Joel Anthony have to give.
And beyond all this “here’s what the Heat can do” stuff…Isn’t it a much larger issue for the Magic and Boston that they’re going to have to cover LeBron and Wade? Who’s getting that done? Vince Carter and Rashard Lewis? Ray Allen and Paul Pierce? THOSE are match-up nightmares, and I’m not even mentioning Chris Bosh right now. Throw him in the mix, and that’s bad, bad news for any team in the NBA. No one can guard this team straight-up.
So while there might be a concern here or there as to how to defend one star on Boston or Orlando, it’s NOTHING compared to the colossal problems that Three Kings pose.
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:16 am
no team right now can afford to double team wade or Lebron
but i think Boston will be a bigger challenge to Miami then the lakers
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Rob Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Do you really expect Zydrunas ilgauskus or juwan howard to guard dwight howard? There’s no way. The reason we beat them is because we have good individual defenders. The reason JO was garbage was because he had kendrick perkins on him. Your team has no interior defense you’ll get torn apart by teams with good offensive front lines such as the lakers, magic and celtics. You may get more highlight plays but you won’t end up with a title at the end of this season.
James Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
No, I said I expect the frontcourt players to stay between Dwight and the basket, and when he’s in too deep, foul the hell out of him. Make him earn it, that’s all you have to do.
And like I said, the Heat pose more problems than the Magic or Celtics do. You can talk about guarding this person or that, but 3 of the top 7 (by any standard) offensive players in basketball play for the same team. THAT is a much bigger problem than one guy who has a match-up advantage over Joel Anthony or Zydrunas.
And by the way, LeBron slapped up about a 38-8-8 against the Magic in ’09. He truly had no help, so the Cavs lost. D-Wade played a great series against the Celts this spring, but he had no help, so the Heat lost. I think those guys are going to have help the next time they face the Magic and Celtics.
James Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
And come on man, the reason JO was garbage was because Perkins was guarding him? Really? What about the 300 games of basketball he played before the Celtics series, in which he was also garbage? Jermaine O’Neal hasn’t been a valuable low-post NBA player in a long time.
And to those who don’t know basketball, yes boston STOPPED WADE last year. The pathetic HEAT won only 1 LUCKY game.
This is only to inform those bloggers who don’t know what happened, like this kindergarten writer called POET SHAWN. hahaha
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:50 am
stopped?
wow shut up go check the stats
now your on the magic and boston bandwagon
i know your hoping that your flakers dont play the heat
but when you know something about basketball and stop being a faker homer
then come back
go answer your phones clueless bitch
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monmon Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:53 am
Listen to this poet, according to him Miami beat Boston last year. What a genius!
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:55 am
no i didnt say that
J O’neal played like shit and now hes a celtic
i really feel sorry for you
dont they have homes for people as stupid as you
monmon Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:59 am
Hey, i think it’s that time in the day that you talk to us about your crush on your professor. C’mon, clueless shawn, that’s the only thing you have to say that pique’s my interest…cmon, entertain us…hahaha
shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:02 am
crush on my processor? how old are you?
come on clueless bitch
the only thing you can say is ball hog kb24 mvp
and copy other peoples blogs
and your talking?
say whatever you want
in the end your still coming to a Miami Heat site and trolling
which makes you the hater
monmon Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:07 am
You’re shy to talk about your crush allofasudden? What’s wrong, your 2 sisters Lame 3 and James aren’t around? hahaha.
What a bore. I know you’l be waiting for me again later, so see ya then, genius!
shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:09 am
shy? whatever lil bitch whatever floats your boat
dont get your panties in a bunch
have fun answering the phones
later clueless homer
James Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:11 am
No, I’m here, but you don’t talk about basketball. You’re a jackass who drags down any discussion, so I don’t say s*** to you. As you can see above, “Rob” talked about basketball in a logical way, with legitimate questions, and I wrote something back. Stop coming around, trying to evoke people into verbal slap-fights. Just talk about basketball, man.
monmon Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Wow, you got an ego the size of Lebron’s. Nobody cares what you think much less me. And I’ve been talking basketball, but it’s you and your sisters poet shawn and lame 3 that’s been making all the hate talk. That’s coz they know not what they’re talking about and can’t take contrary opinions. Not that I care one bit.
shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
talking basketball??? Yo Kid get a clue bitch all you do is hate and hate and hate
grow up
you dont know shit about basketball and we can take contrary opinions when they MAKE SENSE but coming for a lil clueless bitch like you
and if you dont care one bit like you say clueless bitch
then why do YOU EVEN BOTHER COMING TO A HEAT SITE AND TROLLING YOU HATER
Seriously stop being such a kobe homer
all you do is hate
wow dude you are such a TWO FACE homer
lame 3 ball hogs kobe mvp waterboys mimai cold
hahahah thats all you say and now you say ur talking baskeball
how stupid are you lil bitch??
grow up KID
monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Is this the latest poem you learned from kinder school? Brilliant display of emotion, puppy!
John Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Your team has NO interior defense. Chris bosh is not an elite defender. Jermaine and KG dominate the post.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 4:44 am
KG has seen better days he is playing on one leg
just saying he is past his prime and Jermaine didnt you see how Bad he played vs Boston last year
hell im glad hes gone
and bosh is under rated on his D
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@James
so monmon said Wade cant guard shit
yes that what he really said
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James Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:16 am
Yeah I saw that. He’s more of a gamble defender than a lock-down guy, that’s for sure, but overall he’s much better than average defensively. He’s an asset on the defensive end. And he’s sure as hell better than Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, and Kobe’s not a lock-down guy anymore either (despite the reputation he still carries around).
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:19 am
and Miami had the 2nd best D in the NBA last year and moron said wade cant guard shit
funny how hes such a flaker homer
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 7:19 am
@James and shawn
with the statement of the guy in the morgue that Wade can’t guard, it’s really true that he is a mormon. as far as i remember, Wade always makes steals. and if a guy always makes steals and you tell that he can’t guard, you’re someone who might have dosed off while working the phones. the smell of dead people in the morgue could have also gotten into the brain.
monmon Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 9:03 am
I’m a “mormon”? What a dumbo
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
what do you expect?
a hater is a hater
hes such a kobe and laker homer
i really feel sorry for this KID
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
yah thats a new word for you clueless bitch
grow up kid
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an insecure person seeks attention. he enjoys it more when he gets reply from his silly posts. as i have said before, i’m done dealing with this guy. would anyone know why his name is linked to http://www.espn.com? this is a big insult to espn.
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James Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 2:19 am
You can enter any website you want into the little box there when you’re making a comment.
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I just dont understand why he cant just come and admit…Miami is a TITLE Contender this year…..he is denial with all of his delusional thoughts……Thats really all I want to hear from him…..But all of this Shannigans about how Wade+LeBron can’t play D and what not….How about instead of Bashing the heat he can tell us why the Lakers’ are invinsible and can’t be touched……..(Cuz as far as I know they were 6pts away from being defeated….lol)
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
agree that he is indeed in denial and trying to appease himself with the merging of the three. please refer to my reply to shawn’s post at no. 37 below.
you have a good point that he should start saying why the lakers are invinsible. because the only shallow thing that he did to defend his team is by saying that kobe is mvp and they had back to back championships. a very shallow kind of reasoning.
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He is a laker homer and he really doesn’t know anything about basketball I wonder what his excuse will be when the heat win the finals and I really don’t see any end with this lil bitch he’s puupet reapting what he hears form other people this kid needs to grow up
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So accoding to the lil bitch monmon wade lbj and bosh all suck and can’t play D what I am wondering why does he bother to come here and troll and talk stupid like he does??
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
just to express his disappointment on the merging of the three by insulting this site, its fans, and the team. actually, he is the one who has a big problem about what happened to miami – psychologically, mentally, emotionally. just the same as my other laker friends are undergoing – a stage of denial that the three came together and posed a big threat to all the teams in NBA.
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uncb278 Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
I just dont get it why dont admitt it already…the reason he is on this thread is because none of the other teams scare him as much as the heat do…Instead of just saying that he hides behind these lame/poor excuses…If he had legitimate points i would commend him but saying that LBJ WADE BOSH can’t play defense in all of this garbage when 2 of them are on the NBA defensive team…..Just make No Sense
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
exactly. he makes no sense that’s why he is more amusing than irritating. hahaha. you’ll get irritated at him at first. but now, we’re already used to his mind of a nincompoop. it’s really amusing, even Surya posted once that the haters are really amusing. some trollers have better things to argue but this one argues like a moron – a mental age between 7 to 12 years. but i suppose his body is 50-60yrs old because he works the phones at the morgue. hahaha.
monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Admit what? Miami DOES NOT HAVE A TEAM YET. And you want me to say that they’re title contenders? You’re all delusional in your “hope” that you’ll have a dynasty. Show me your team and I’ll see if you’ve even got a shot at a good playoff run
shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
doesnt have a team??? are u fucken serious lil bitch???
grow some balls stop trolling
you are a homer a hater a bitch
make some sense
according to you LbJ wade and bosh all suck
that proves you are dumb
and a lil bitch
Like when the lil bitch said wade can’t play D when miami had the 2nd best D in the leauge last year he is so scared for his flakers big3 and uncb278 don’t they have a law for being being this stupid let these biches hate cuz that’s all they have cuz there team aint winning shit
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
@shawn and uncb278
i’m reposting the post below by a laker fan. he makes more sense than our nincompoop friend. lakerbluedevil posted this at the celticsblog site when Rondo said that “as far as i know, we are still the eastern champs”.
“what is becoming obvious, is Miami is not settling with their roster and more alarming, the market is playing ball. they have a team and it is really really good.”
by lakersbluedevil on Jul 25, 2010 8:10 AM
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shawn Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
That’s very well said. I think the lil bitch just comes here and spams becuase he doesn’t have anything better to do the answer the phones
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 25th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
LMAO!
Sorry
I meant for people being this stupid
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@Matthew
i hope this will be the last time that i’ll be reposting a post from a celticsblog site from a lakerfan. just want to prove my point to the guy at the morgue that there’s a lakerfan out there who has a much much better mind than him. i think he should also get in touch with lakerbluedevil (a fellow laker fan like him) to relieve him of all those psychological, emotional, and mental troubles. lakersbluedevil is referring below to miami heat.
“they will be good. to deny them that is naive. and there is a lot of effort here to differentiate between what Boston did with the Big Three and what Miami did. Yes, Miami and particularly Lebron created a lot of unnecessary hubub (which i deplore) but if you push all that aside, there is NOT much difference. BOTH were teams made overnight. period. ”
by lakersbluedevil on Jul 25, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up
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Matthew Bunch Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 2:05 am
That’s a really clear-headed person looking at the situation. The only difference is that the Heat’s players were smart enough to chase championships in their prime instead of when they got old, buddy-buddy players did it instead of buddy-buddy GM’s (McHale, Ainge), and there was a one-hour show for LeBron. THAT’S IT. Yet the Celtics are heralded as role models and what “team” is all about, and the Heat are hated. I don’t mind being the hated team (it’s a little fun, to be sure), but it’s so nonsensical that I wish I could talk people out of it.
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 2:17 am
@Matthew
you have very good points. i personally don’t see anything wrong with players agreeing to play. i think “conspiracy” is the only excuse that other teams and non-heat fans can say because they want to have something to destroy the morale of the team and the heat fans once the championship is won.
i also don’t mind being the hated team. but as written by an nba writer at nba.com, “nobody roots for Goliath”. and miami can now be considered the Goliath of NBA. that is the reason why a lot of teams are hating us and we can’t avoid it.
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monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:46 am
OMG, Lame 3 wants everybody to suck up to his delusional views that the Heat will be champs. Your a bandwagon jumper, Lame 3, you have aboslutely no credibility talking about basketball. And to cite other laker fans views to assuage your doubts shall not change any fact that the Heat shall never win any titles…
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@matthew and surya this thing with monmon is only going to get worse and worse I’m from LA and I really don’t have anyone to talk aboit the heat with this is why I like this site but lately Its been a spam fest with the heat fans vs monmon what I am saying we are unable to talk about the heat without fighting with this idiot I woudlbt mind him if he made sense which he doesn’t because well he said dwade can’t pkay D
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 2:09 am
@shawn
i think that nincompoop laker/bulls/orlando fan that we are talking about should visit his own site – forumblueandgold to see how some lakerfans are thinking way beyond his empty head. here is an excerpt of the long concern expressed by Zach, a lakerfan at fb&g:
“This Lakers team can be “easily” countermatched by a roster of tough on-ball defenders. Miami is close, and that worries me. LeBron is the best defensive 3 when he tries. Wade is the best defensive 1 in the game (he’ll be matched at the 1 with their clutch lineup – Wade/Miller/James/Bosh/Haslem), and Bosh is an underrated defender.”
the statements above from a lakerfan clearly negates the previous statements of moron/monmon that dwade can’t play D. i’m now slapping these comments at his face. so he is pouring out all his nonsense arguments here because he’ll just be a laughing stock at the fb&g site. that’s the style of a coward and an idiot. bye bye forever moron/monmon. whatever kind of insult you raise from now on to this team, its fans, and this site will just return to you like a slap on your face and idiot brain. hahahaha.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 2:29 am
hahahaha good one big3
so we all know what magic, jordan and Barkley had to say
what about larry bird?
here you go
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ian_thomsen/07/23/countdown/1.html
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 2:46 am
this a great link, shawn! thanks. i think all those who hate miami should start reading this link. it only proves that this is a different era. and this is correct, we have seen a lot of nations who used to be enemies now coming to terms with each other because they need each other’s strengths. globalization changed a lot of ways people do business, there is now what you called outsourcing. before i go out of hand, my point is, we can never compare the era of jordan, magic, and bird with the era of wade, lebron, kobe. before it’s competition with each other, but now it’s more of coalition.
shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 2:55 am
i agree, i know miami is going to be the most hated team in the nba and the haters going to make up all these excuses why
like that guy rob saying who is going to guard Dwight Howard well whos going to guard wade and lbj
before you can run a double team on them now if you do they have each other to pass to or Mike miller waiting at the 3 point line
and Bosh with his outside shooting his ability to get to the basket
well when the heat play the magic
they have to worry about one player and there 3 point shooting (you gotta give credit where credit is due) but the magic have 2 worry about 3 players
before teams will design their defences to stop wade lbj or bosh (remember wade is the best in the NBA at creating his own shot and getting to the foul line)
this is something they haven’t seen before ever
the heat were ranked 2nd in D last year im not worried about there D
remember in 2008 everyone taught the Celtics Defense was bad not they proved everyone wrong
and as basketball fans we are all going to be “WITNESS” to some great games
monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:40 am
hahahaha, did i upset you, poet? You poor, poor, thing. You’re telling on me coz you want the bosses to spank me? You wet-dream about me everyday that’s why you reply to all my comments? You obsessed about me that you wait for me each day? You want to talk about your crush on your professor and your “processor” (as you implied in comment 32) without anybody noticing except your 2 sisters James and Lame 3? You don’t have anybody talk to? Poor, poor, pup, tell you what, tell me where your hovel is and I’ll go there, put your diapers on, put you on my lap, sing you a lullaby, and when you wake up, teach you how to write….you like the idea don’t you, puppy
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monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:06 am
What is funny is that both of you are not even from Miami. Ya both jumped the Miami bandwagon after your teams lost pathetically to the lakers last month, thinking that you’ll get revenge through the 3 biggest hogs in basketball history. Do you even have a team yet to talk about your dreams? As of the moment Riley is scoutin the WNBA to get the other 5 players needed for the roster. Good luck with that, dreamers
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
i have been a heat fan since 1995 im not a bandwagon jumper like you lil bitch
really get a life lil bitch , is this all you have
maybe you do because all your life you have been a lil bitch
shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
dude you are truly a bitch you can say whatever you want like it matters coming from someone as stupid as you why dont you go answer your phones lil bitch
really must suck to be you
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@shawn
other teams will indeed have a hard time figuring out how to defend the whole miami heat team. we have a lot of offensive options. double teaming any one of them will be a big mistake, other teams will pay the prize. late help defense could result to more fouls and bring other teams to penalty early in each quarter. we don’t have a problem with that because we have good FT shooters.
it would also be interesting to see how we can convert easy transition baskets with the superstars around.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 3:58 am
Wade to LeBROn
lebron to wade
wade to bosh
lebron to bosh
i can go on and on and on lolll
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 4:10 am
the heat are a defenses nightmare
cant wait till they shut all the haters up
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 5:09 am
lol! exactly.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 5:16 am
i really hope we get a chat room on the site that will be nice to have someone to talk 2 during games
i cant wait till the first game
monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Nobody will ever want to talk to kindergarten writer like you, they need to understand how your puppy mind works first, but when they do, they’ll see you don’t have one. Sorry for the reality check, pathetic pup
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I love this site! I’m so popular here that people forget talking about basketball and pour their hate and love all over the blogsite. I’m lovin it, dumbos. Pour it on! Show your lunacy to the U S A! It’s a great form of entertainment!
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
look its the lil bitch there you go again lil bitch
stop being a hater
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@ monmon
hahahaha u love this site because ur popular?? hate to break it to u but u must seriously fail at life if u come here to actually feel wanted. Your comments used to b entertaining as u used every excuse to say why the heat won’t win, Now ur comments are just sad and I kinda feel sorry for you.
@Sean and big 3, it’s going to b so entertaining seeing us on the fast break and lil ammo against people who say Jordan, Larry, magic or barkley wouldn’t team up. Magic and Larry absolutly hated each other, and why would magic want to go anywhere he was playing in LA with Kareem, not some backwater town. Magic also couldn’t go anywhere as he signed a 25yr/25mill deal. Jordan also had pippen who is a top 50 NBA all time player and Jordan also signed a long contract of 8 years. And as for Charles! What a hypocrite, lebron left after 7 years, Charles left after 8.
Lebron and bosh both left teams who, after 7 years still hadn’t been able to put another all star player around their number 1. Kobe was also just as desperate to leave, and alot more public and arrogant about it until they were giftwrapped gasol. And hey lebron may have left and hurt Cleveland, atleast he didn’t cheat on his wife by raping another woman.
Can’t wait till October to see the heat dynasty officially begin!!!
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
damn right
cant wait either
by the way your right about monmon all he has in life is this site and answering his phones
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monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
ALL the basketball greats believe LBJ is a pussy for conspiring with the 2 other losers in the hope of bagging a title. LBJ couldnt win against his peers during his prime, and he couldn’t win a title being the superstar with another great sidekick. Even in the remote possibility that the Heat would win a title — LBJ and the other hogs would NEVER get the same credit the other greats had. He’ll just be known as a piggybacking player
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
okay whatever you say lil punk bitch
answer your phones
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So many reasons for the Heat to win. It’s getting amusing, and the Heat doesn’t even have a team yet. Wow, great, all you “basketball experts” are salivating over nothing. All you got are 3 ball-hogs, a soft 3 pt shooter, Slow Z, Old Howard, and a slew of pansy backups. If you know basketball, you should know all you got right now is hype. Nothing more nor less.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
the lakers bench is that great? you are a fucken idiot and a lil bitch
question for you how does it feel going through life being a lil bitch?
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And once again: DWADE CAN’T GUARD shit! Name me just one person he stopped during the playoffs? Rondo, Allen and all the other guards ran rings around his defense. He tried to guard Kobe the last few seconds during the regular season game and he made a 3 in his face to win the game. Allen, Fisher, Raja Bell, Tayshaun, Chauncey are much better defenders than him. The only reason he’s in the defensive team is coz he’s a superstar.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
what??
you are a fucken moron you stupid fuck
cuz hes a co superstar???
seriously what goes on in that fucked up head of yours
stop being a homer you lil bitch
because hes a co superstar
hahahahaha
atleast you admitted hes a superstar but your a fucken idiot
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hes the top guard among block shots and 4th in steals
and you just said he cant guard shit
okay
whatever floats your boat lil bitch
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and miami had the 2nd best defense in the nba last year and according to your dumbass he cant guard shit
im laughing on how stupid you are lil bitch
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DWADE CAN’T GUARD shit! Miami has not stopped any team the past years. Can’t even remember if it entered the ECF since before or after 06. It’s a permanent fixture though in the history of the 1st rd and 2nd rd of the playoffs. That’s the place for Miami. Maybe it’ll be more exciting with the 3 hogs. Certainly I wanna watch its frustration when Orlando and Boston destroy the conspirators. That would be the next best thing to see after seeing the Lakers 3-peat.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
numbers dont lie lil bitch
im done with you
whatever you say doesnt matter because you are a moron who doesnt know basketball
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
okay mike miller can shoot the 3 occasional???http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/3-points
check your facts moron
and how good is the lakers bench
haslem is a proven player all of them are
your problem is that you turn your opinions into facts
and that fact that you the lil punk bitch said mike miller cant shoot
proves to me even more that you are beyond stupid beyond help
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Matthew Bunch Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
You’re just making up stuff now. I like the contrarian, but you’re getting annoying. Miami was the third-best team in defensive efficiency last season, trailing only Orlando and Charlotte:
http://hoopdata.com/teamdefstats.aspx
Dwyane Wade has been All-NBA Defensive Second Team three times in his career. And Boston and Orlando are NOT going to “destroy” Miami. You’re just delusional.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
lmao way to clown him matt
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monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
@ matthew, I was referring to Miami’s performance during the playoffs, where it really matters. Sure the regular season is impt. as it establishes playoff ranking, but Miami has never done nothing in the playoffs defensively except in 06. Miami has been raped for 21 years by other teams. And they were certainly raped by the Celtics months ago. Assuming of course that everybody’s healthy, the same thing will happen next season. You just got 3 hogs but very few reliable players especially on the defensive end. And please don’t tell me that LBJ, Bosh and Slow Z can guard the front court. Boozer and Noah will control them, Pau and Andrew will negate them, and most certainly KG, Perk (or JO), and Paul will whoop their asses come playoff time. Forget the regular season, that doesn’t count in the endgame. So be annoyed and keep on looking at regular season stats, you know very well nobody remembers them in hindsight.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
i am laughing my ass off
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
the fact that Miami had the 2nd best d in the year according to ESPN stats
doesn’t mean nothing to you
really how stupid are you?
Matthew Bunch Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
That series should not be used as an indicator of the Heat as a whole. The team got the worst performance from a big man I’ve ever seen and still should have been going back to Boston (everyone forgets the Pierce shot was an absolutely perfectly guarded prayer).
The Heat of the past have had many deficiencies, but I wouldn’t say defense is one of them. It’s a Riley-styled team, and the big names get their points, but from a schematic standpoint, I’d say they’re above-par. And with two guys who have made the All-Defensive team over the last two years, I’d say they’re going to be just fine on the defensive end.
Throw out Boston please. They were old and lucky last year, and they just got a year older. The Lakers obviously match up with this team, but unless Orlando trades for Chris Paul, there’s no other team that can go man-for-man against this team. I know you don’t like them, but boil off that dislike and just look at it. They have two of the best three/four and three of the best 10. They’re going to be okay against Joakim Noah.
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
exactly, Matthew. Boston, my former team, were done and they really just got lucky. Boston fans, like me then, never knew we were getting to the finals. We were really shocked. As the first seed, I was expecting cleveland to win in the ECF and looking forward to see how lebron and kobe will battle it out in the finals. It never happened, but in 2011, it will. Orlando is a threat but not that strong because i saw how they played against lakers and boston. Orlando have this tendency of folding up during critical games, Howard has poor FT shooting, even Carter missed FTs which could have won the game for them. Orlando is not a good match against the lakers in the finals, they are underdogs. But if you see the heat vs lakers, that’s a very good match because both teams have players with championship caliber.
monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
The problem with your theory is you assume they’ll have the same numbers when they’re together. They each got those numbers being the go-to guy in their teams. Now that they’re together they’ll fight to get the ball, especially during end-games. Even if we grant that they won’t fight for the ball, experience tells us that these players will never be the same again, offensive wise. So they have to improve on their defense to get a real shot at the title. I don’t see them getting better on defense at all. At best, they’ll just be decent defenders.
So you really think Boston is shot, huh? Ok let’s see what you got. Assuming Arroyo and Slow Z are starters, what do you have in your bench: Old Juwan (immobile); UD (decent player both ways); Chalmers, Anthony and Pittman ( all unproven); Miller (soft 6th man who can shoot the 3 occasionally but only if OPEN); and who else? Cmon, man, even you would know they’re no good. At least if you wanna win the title. Only 3 of them will probably get to play, the rest shall be water boys.
Look at your competition in the East: Bucks (potential is tremendous) are young guns; Atlanta (maturing athletes); Orlando has the beast in Dwight and are now experienced enough to slap your guys; Chicago has its own version of the big 3 in Rose, Boozer and Noah. Plus it has a great bench. Bulls could be the biggest challenge with their young athletes but Im going with Boston, Orl, Chi before Miami.
Your delusions shall just have to wait.
remember the lakers didnt make the playoffs in o4 and in 05 and 06 what happen lost 1st round to the suns
then what happen there team got better
what i am trying to tell your dumbass is
miami’s team for the past couple years have been that great and teams go through high’s and low’s
but you wont understand what i am saying because the smell of dead people fucked with your little brain that you have
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
@shawn
i had a good laugh with your posts. way to go!
@Matthew
thank you so much for defending our team
a desperate, depressed, demoralized, full of hatred fan that seems like his life got lost with the birth of MIAMI THRICE. and he feels he is popular and loved here, what a pathetic loser.
i really pity you dude. maybe you can try talking to dead people at your morgue, they won’t be able to decipher how silly you are, you can talk with them all day about your depression with our team and they won’t tell you you’re a jackass. laughing my @ss at you! hahaha!
i will just reply to sensical heat and/or non-heat fans from now on. the face of that troller bitch or bastard (whatever she/he may be) is now just a thing of the past for me.
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
lol nice big3
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
yo shawn, i’m following @dwadeofficial, @KingJames, @chrisbosh, @MiamiHEAT on twitter. Dwade posted that he had a great workout with james and chris paul last friday. forget those miami haters who are asking and criticizing, how are they gonna jel? watching the nba 2010 all-star alone shows how the three kings can play together.
shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
im following him too whats ur twitter
monmon Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
You’ re a bandwagon jumper. You could jump the empire state and nobody would care. you’re as insignificant as a gnat in the forest. Who cares what you do, dumbo
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
i have been a heat fan since 1995 you punk bitch
its funny how you think ur the shit or something
but really your like a lil boy who got bullied all his life
i really feel sorry for you grow up kid
grow some hair on does things you call balls
shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
@big3 i wonder if moron see’s dead people?
Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
@shawn
yes, probably he does. that’s why he got bored and wants to be loved and popular in a site where there are warm bodies and human beings.
i really don’t care being a bandwagon jumper, this is a free country and i’m free to do and enjoy what i want, as long as i’m not stepping on other people’s toes. that’s my philosophy in life. i’m even proud that i changed to a team who has players that sacrificed money for glory.
i don’t need other teams’ sites just to be loved and be popular. in the first place, i don’t have to be popular. with all due respect to other bloggers, i have my own place in society that’s much above par than the guy at the morgue.
i just come here from time to time because i enjoy basketball.
i don’t have to insult other teams because i’m confident with my team. insulting is a defense mechanism to cope with probably, a failure in life.
and i also believe in bad karma, even if we don’t know our real names here, whatever bad we do and say, whatever motives or hidden agenda we have, it will be known to our Creator. and definitely, there is always payback time.
bottomline, i wish i could read more posts discussing about the team rather than seeing just insults from a very uneducated troller. being a former celtic fan, i never saw a troller as uneducated, disrespectful, and nonsensical as this one. the post exchanges have been very healthy and educational. even trollers from other teams have respect for the site and the bloggers.
haven’t been that great
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
@big 3 i agree with the post above
i have been a heat fan for so long
i went through the highs and lows with this team
i was beyond happy when LeBron said miami
i was smiling for a whole week
i dont mind when non heat fans come here and discuss basketball
but when they show a lack of respect to everyone that is what annoys me
respect is a key
but when they come here and say they have no D when there defense has always been proven and dont check their facts this is what annoys me the most
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monmon Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Yes, I see dead people, which is why i can see you!
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the miami heat are gunna rape this season………..maybe NBA champs the next 6 seasons? and why not get Allen Iverson?
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shawn Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
i agree with you with the first part….. i think there not getting A.i because its not a good fit for them, this team is all about chemistry
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Monmon, the thread ran out so I’m continuing down here.
LeBron is a Magic, not a Michael. He’ll flourish with the guys around him, providing better than Wade or Bosh has ever had before. And Bosh doesn’t require the ball in his hand like a Wade or LeBron, he’s your inside guy. Mike Miller had one of the top-25 three-point shooting performances of all time last season on a crappy team. You don’t think the three will space the floor for him better than in Washington?
Those players on average teams aren’t very good. But surrounded with top-tier talent, Chalmers could be a top-10 point guard in the league. I firmly believe that. The centers literally just need to camp near the basket and collect rebounds and get a couple of blocks now and again. Their offensive output is really unnecessary. I’ll play with a rotation of eight: Wade, James, Bosh, Arroyo, Z, Chalmers, Miller, Haslem. Sprinkle the rest in every now and again and you’re good to go.
Please remove every competing team from your list except Orlando. Bucks are a fine team, but not in the Heat’s class. Miami has had a handle on Atlanta the last two years, and that was with junk. Chicago has a worse record than the Heat last year and added a player significantly worse than any of the three Miami added. Joakim Noah is not a top-30 player in the league, people just like him for some reason. Dwight is intimidating, but he’s one guy, and I’ll take him having some uncontested shots inside while the Heat spread the floor and work around him.
I don’t think I’m the one with delusions, my friend.
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Big3 of Southbeach Fan Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
thanks, Matthew. this kind of posts are what we expect to read, not merely insults and all the hating that’s been going around this site for sometime now.
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Matthew Bunch Reply:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
I love mixing it up a bit. And I love a little bit of poking by an outsider. But it’s gotten a little bit angry (and that’s on everyone’s part, not just one person). Lets just keep it to basketball, please.
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monmon Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 12:19 am
Of course that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. But you just said it yourself, there are only 3 legitimate bench players in your lineup. That means the 3 hogs shall play most of the time. That will diminish their stamina come playoff time. And they can’t do that effectively for the next 5 yrs, which they have to deal with as Miami can’t get good role players while the 3 hogs are there. Nobody will play for pennies anymore after this Heat fiasco. So you’re stuck with them for a while. Now, you assume that Lebron will be a Magic, and DWade will score, and Bosh will rebound. Problem is, even if true, they have to this night in and night out. And Bosh is soft, man. He can’t deal with KG, Pau or Boozer or Noah or Dwight. Nobody’s scared of your frontline. Lebron can easily be neutralized with a team having a big frontline like what the Celts did to the Cavs the past years.
Maybe you forgot about Orlando during the time of young Shaq when the starting five were considered the best in the NBA. But they didn’t have any bench so they got schooled by Houston in the finals. The same is the situation in Miami now. Everything is about the 3 hogs, and the rest are just there to support them. Team play does not work that way. Each player has to be good at what he does. Chalmers a great prospect? Cmon. Arroyo? No good point guards already, and that’s the guy who brings the ball up. You wanna use the others to bring the ball up? Lebron failed to succeed doing that with the Cavs. Then there’s your center problem. Matchup wise they suck. Can Z still rebound? Can Anthony? Good luck with Bosh against the young forwards. One slap on his face and he gets injured.
I understand your elation of the hogs’ homecoming, but I think it’s but a dream to believe they’ll win 6 rings much less 1. For the next 6 years, it’ll be a combination of LA, Boston, Chicago, Oklahoma, Orlando and maybe even Portland (when all are healthy) conferences and finals series games, with LA taking most of the titles. But ok, you may include Miami in one series, friend.
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Matthew Bunch Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 1:24 am
Here’s my take on your perspective. You have healthy skepticism about something which is entirely unproven. I understand that. But you really think this team is going to struggle against Boston for the next six years? Miami is Boston, except younger and better. Rondo’s better than Chalmers, obviously, but I’ll take Miami everywhere else, and I think Rondo’s going to take a hit when the original Big 3 crumble.
LeBron failed to do that in Cleveland because he had junk players around him, no one who could finish. Dwyane Wade won’t have that problem. Chris Bosh won’t have that problem. Mike Miller won’t have that problem.
And here’s my biggest issue with your take. You’re willing to eliminate the untested experiment in Miami, yet prop up proven average teams like Chicago and Portland! The Bulls were positively average this year, and they traded Hinrich for Boozer, basically. Slight upgrade, but it’s a drop in a bucket compared to the upgrade the Heat had.
I’m not someone who’s booking spots for eight Larry O’Brien Trophies in AmericanAirlines Arena. I know injuries can occur, bad luck can hit you, a number of different things can derail championship hopes. Plus, I know the Lakers aren’t chopped liver (however, Kobe is an old 31 and getting older every game). But you really wouldn’t bet the over on 1.5 championships over the next six years for the Heat?
Surya Fernandez Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Just ignore him like I have done and others here are doing now. It doesn’t matter how logical or well-reasoned your arguments are, he just wants attention. Hopefully he’ll just go away if we all just resist the urge to respond to his rants.
I understand where you’re coming from with your take. And i did not say Miami will struggle against Boston for 6 years. I’m saying that Boston will beat Miami the next 2 yrs. despite their seemingly geriatric lineup. I never underestimate the heart of the champions. For the next 6 yrs however, Miami has to deal with Orlando and Chicago, and who knows what Boston will do to augment their lineup once Ray and KG are gone. And we now know what Rondo can do. What I know is Chicago has a new great defensive coach and very young and very athletic players that are maturing fast. Dwight in Orl will get even better and with the prospect of CP3 joining either this year or next, they’ll be the team to beat the next 6 yrs. Even without CP3, Orlando has the young and now experienced players to deal with any trouble Miami has to offer.
I have a hard time believing that Lebron can work great with the other 2 offensive minded players. I don’t see DWade and Bosh simply assisting and rebounding. I don’t see chemistry anywhere. Wade and Lebron together could not even vie for a gold medal for the US either in the 06 Worlds and 04 Olympics until Kobe and the others came in 08. They couldn’t beat Greece! at the Worlds and were whipped by Argentina during the Olympics despite having the best teammates they ever had in their careers. With the 3 of them together, they’ll just be a little above average players because their stats would diminish. They can’t possibly have the same stats when they need to share the ball more unlike when they had it all the time.
Then they have to deal with whoever wins the West. The Lakers are a gimme for title shots at least until Kobe retires. The lakers have all the tools, experience and savvy to beat any team in the playoffs. The possible contenders to their throne are either Oklahoma (in a couple years) and Portland. Both have the best young athletic players today. But before Miami counts its titles, it has to deal with the tremendous competition in the East. I can only see them winning in maybe 1 year at the most.
I abhor what LBJ did to Cleveland. Nobody gets away with mocking a city, man, no matter how good or how much you liked the guy. As far as the NBA and even the world is concerned, LBJ copped out of greatness. That’s what the experts and the great players said, and I totally agree. He’ll just be another player that was once considered a candidate to be the greatest player ever — but blew it! He’ll always be remembered for what he did during the 2010 free agency fiasco…
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Matthew Bunch Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
I think this is just an agree-to-disagree situation. You like where you stand, I like where I stand. We’ll find out soon enough.
The 04 and 06 teams aren’t a fair indicator. James was 19 and 21 years old, respectively, at the time. These aren’t kids anymore, they’re in their prime. If they don’t perform to max potential, it would be shocking and hugely disappointing.
As for the LeBron reaction, I don’t think he handled it great at all. If he even had an inkling he was leaving Cleveland, he should have never done a TV show. However, it’s unfair to criticize someone for serving out a contract to completion then moving on to another company. Everyone does that every day, and just because you might have some loyalty doesn’t mean you should tie yourself down against your own best interests. I wouldn’t have been angry if he decided ultimately to go back to Cleveland, but he chose his friendships and winning over that. Be upset at the way he decided, but not at the decision itself.
And don’t listen to the old guys. They’re either angry they didn’t win a ring (Barkley), didn’t have the chance to do it themselves (Jordan), or actually did exactly this and forgets about it (Johnson). Listen to Rick Barry on Le Batard’s show. He’s from the “old old school,” using his term, and thought it was fantastic. You can have your own opinions, but this “copping out of greatness” stuff is bunk.
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